Gary Snyder Has Had It With You Puny Humans

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During the long Q&A session after his Seattle Arts and Lectures talk, Gary Snyder was asked about climate change and everyone in Benaroya Hall mentally leaned in to hear. "I don't worry about it," said Snyder, taking the opportunity to mention that he thought about climate change in chunks of geologic time, 200 million years or so. There used to be palm trees in Greenland, he pointed out, and while we Pleistocene refugees may be freaked out at losing our glaciers, it's fair to say the world has warmed up more than this before.

It was an idiot thing to say--idiot Greekwise, in terms of using local nomenclature with tourists. (Like when economists are all, "What? It's just a little creative destruction," and people in breadlines go, "Oh yeah?" and set fire to the economists' homes.) And not all all Buddhists are as sanguine as Snyder about the prospect of runaway--in geologic time--climate change moving faster than populations can successfully adapt.

Snyder is 80, though, so you have to cut him a little slack for thinking long-term. He's still spry (you have to say "still spry" even though you never hear about a spry baby) and rocks a sort of Spock-like gray shock of hair. Last night he was in full West coast poet regalia, probably all organic fibers: black vest, orange shirt, cream khakis, and red socks.

He's outlasted his heyday as a poet--mainly because he was so far ahead of the curve to begin with--and become a grand old environmental statesman. A student and friend of San Francisco Renaissance writers Jack Spicer, Robin Blaser, and Robert Duncan, he broke out in 1969 with Riprap and Cold Mountain Poems, and eventually won a Pulitzer for Turtle Island (1974), the stinky-hippie bible. (Earth Verse is their anthem--"This might end up being the Pledge of Allegiance in a few centuries," semi-quipped Snyder, who likes to say what he believes in a way that makes people laugh.)

He's also a terrific essayist, and long before many, many people, Snyder was writing about ecology and ecosystems and watersheds, and the way we have painted over natural boundaries with our less significant and sometimes dangerous socio-political ones.

Last night he read from both poems and essays--interspersed with habitual, didactic footnotes and digressions, so that it was sometimes hard to tell which was which--beginning with his early stuff. The difference between a young poet and an adult one is the difference between where the poet stands. In his early work, you can hear Snyder the dockworker, Pacific Northwest lumberjack, engine room worker, critiquing trade, logging, and oil--he sees darkly where it all leads, but he's still very much caught up in it, and there's less of a sense of his own complicity.

Later come his trademark excursions that can start with a pebble and end up dropping you off somewhere in the Milky Way. Snyder has never been averse to an expedition. He's a local boy, in some ways--his parent moved to what's now Seattle, north of Lake City Way, from San Francisco during the Great Depression. When he was nine he took the train back by himself, to see the 1939 World's Fair. (His Wobbly grandfather lived in Kitsap County, and used to head down to Yesler Square to harangue from atop a soapbox, a mode of discourse that Snyder hasn't entirely avoided himself.)

Now it pleases him to take the long view, working on 500-year sustainable forestry plans. "A thousand years will come before you know it," he exclaimed, trying to shake the audience out of its tomorrow-and-tomorrow stupor, and read from an essay that explained why California will never be like Tuscany: nothing built in California is supposed to last 50 years, let alone a few hundred, and not speak of 1,000. There is no inventory of old, stone California villas to delight future generations.

New poems he'd been working on rang with that elliptical sharpness of old, but one contained so many awkward inversions he sounded like a basso Yoda--instructing us in wisdom he was.

Then came the Q&A, where he announced that the other animals like to hear people play music; that not only should kids get sent outside, but they should be sent with tools to do work; that poverty is a great aid to cooperation; that sustainability means an ecosystem that functions without losing any of its parts; that "Allen Ginsberg taught me never to be ashamed of anything" (by opening his mail when they were roommates); and that when he says "wild" he means "self-managing" or "self-directed."

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Only one of the questions Wednesday night actually concerned poetry. Is this why almost no innovative poetry has ever been created in Seattle while Vancouver BC (TISH) and San Francisco (Beat, SF Renaissance, Berkeley Renaissance) has more than their share of same?

A link to Blaser's last interview published by, ironically, Seattle-based Golden Handcuffs Review:
Golden Handcuffs Review.

Dammit. Thanks for the crx!

Yeah, I found the whole event directed toward a more mainstream audience (which I don't mean derogatorily, just that it wasn't a poetry masterclass so much as a "famous writer speaks" event). I think you have to have a larger community than Seattle has had to see group innovation--the last wave I can think of would be Roethke's UW students.

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