The Suddenly-Enforceable 25-Foot Rule

2101722518_1203a2108c_o.jpgNo one noticed, but last week the King County health department raised the stakes in the city's war on smoking by suing two bars for failing to comply with the nah-they'll-never-enforce-it rule that prohibits smoking within twenty-five feet of the doors, windows, and vents of bars and restaurants. You may have noticed that the twenty-five-foot rule generally isn't enforced, and smokers seem to wander as far afield as twenty-five inches from the door of most bars before lighting up. Check outside Neumos between sets, the Tractor on weekends and most neighborhood bars any time at all where it's not unusual to see patrons straddling the threshold of a back door; Manny's just inside the bar, American Spirit just out.


The bars that are getting sued—The George and Dragon Pub in Fremont and Zaina in Belltown—allow smoking on their decks, again, just like every other bar with a deck in Seattle ,which is why it's hard to fathom why these two have been singled out for action above and beyond the few citations that have previously been issued by the health department. We polled exactly one Seattle bar owner and it's his impression that "allowing or encouraging" smoking within twenty-five feet of the doors could get an establishment in trouble, and since Zaina sells hooka loads we're going to assume that falls well within "encouraging," but what about the George and Dragon? Did a health department official get a cold Shepard's pie or try cheering against England or something? Because these suits smell exactly like the selective and random enforcement that bars and bar-goers feared when the extreme language of the smoking ban was unveiled.

Smoking gull photo courtesy of n a r b o o and the Seattlest Flickr Pool.

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Ummm...didn't multiple complaints from patrons instigate those suits?

usually, yes slag.

And G&D sucks. So maybe that's why. Fucking rude, horrible bartenders and annoying patrons.

I really hate those barkeeps, most of the time. They're pretentious unless you have tits.

But, that goes for most of Fremont.

I'm feeling randy today.

Can I just say, I love how Manny's has slowly become the standard beer.

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slag, that would make some sense, but I haven't seen that claim made anywhere. Where are you getting that from?

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i live in fremont and i gotta say that the G&D is the worst as far as smoking is concerned. they have this huge parking lot but the last 3 or 4 times i was there, someone's just sitting there smoking right on the patio next to others.

obviously this isn't a scientific study, (and the G&D is hardly the only violator of the law), but it's pretty bad there. at least at the red door you can kind of get away from it.

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Thing is: it's a patio... it's outside... smoke away IMO. Insides are largely smoke-free now and I, personally, have no beef with walking past a gauntlet of smokers on the way in. There *must* be room for everyone.

Self-righteous non-smokers are among the biggest whiny bastards around. I've though about taking up smoking just to piss the fuckers off.

Dan,
This was a discussion going on the Myballard blog and Freemont Universe blog.
One of the references was this:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/366908_smoking13.html

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It isn't "suddenly enforceable" until there's a ruling. Unless I missed something, the case hasn't even been heard by the court yet.

Tom - fully agreed. Hold your breath.

I voted for the ban for the workers who may need to work in those places. They have a right to stay healthy.

"Fucking rude, horrible bartenders and annoying patrons."


sounds like an English pub! Shocking!

DougS-

Exactly.

Fucking Brits.

I was actually just thinking about the smoking ban last week, and how it's so nice that we have it. I'm so used to it now that I can't imagine how we ever allowed smoking in bars, and cities that still allow it seem Stone Age to me. We've had the ban for almost 3 years now.


Has it really been that long?

I was in a small town in Idaho.

It freaked me out when I sat down and there were cigarettes being smoked.

It freaked me out, even after acknowledging and holding a conversation about how weird it was, when my friend lit up right next to me.

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