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<title>Middleman</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:43:00 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;wow, Zeron&apos;s really into commenting on this blog post

your girlfriend write for the Weekly, or something?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>TroyJMorris</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 16:15:59 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Zeron,

Since you like to comment and re-comment and comment again (I&apos;m sure you&apos;re used to having conversations with yourself), I&apos;ll follow suit:

&quot;Audrey, let me guess - you went to a state college? (Not that your little missive wasn&apos;t terribly cerebral and well composed ...)&quot;

Seriously (or, how would you type, &quot;srsly&quot;), you used the word cerebral?  How pretentious are you trying to come across?

Sorry, I&apos;ll try to keep my responses shorter, since apparently you&apos;re far too busy to read long comments and nor use proper punctuation.

If you&apos;re going to try to be a pretentious jackass, try to figure out how and when to place a comma.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>TroyJMorris</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 16:10:39 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Zeron,

Name an out of place phrase?  And try to not grab your thesaurus to prove the size of your ego.  Also, passing 11th grade was in no way an insinuation to tout degrees.  It was wondering if you actually have more than an elementary possession of modern American politics.

And, here you go, &quot;Both McBama and O&apos;Cain voted for the $700B bailout.&quot;

Try to not be a complete jackass and see if we can actually hold a conversation.  Currently, it&apos;s you boohooing off topic to anyone who doesn&apos;t agree with your trite response to an article.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>rjh</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:31:13 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Another yawn of a post from a wannabe journalist who can&apos;t get a job on a real publication so instead launches attacks on those who have those jobs.

Ronald Holden falls in the same category.

Jealousy can be an ugly thing.
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<title>zeron</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 23:50:24 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Dearest Troy, I took a few minutes to read your little essay. 

Did you study politics past the 11th Grade required U.S. History?

Dear Troy, I&apos;ve no desire to trot out degrees and credentials in a public forum but do feel free to privately message me if you really want my C.V. 

There are provisions and previous votes and amendments to said bills that need to be taken into account.

Dear Troy, you appear to have a little, emergent grasp to the complexities of the legislative process, so kudos. It sounds like you&apos;ve, at some point (perhaps recently, I&apos;ll guess thanks to a suddenly intensified interest in the political process), got a little taste to the functional realities of riders, so double kudos to you. Most Americans think a rider is someone who pity-fucks the fat chicks at the Downunder. 

That said, you throw out some terribly out-of-place phrases that causes one to arch an inquisitive eyebrow with tick-tock curiosity about how shallow your little taste of knowledge is ... save one, I didn&apos;t refer to any legislation, proposed or passed. That begs the question: to what &quot;said bills&quot; [sic] are you referring? 

I appreciate your attempt at a cerebral response, but there&apos;s nothing worse than one that falls flat on it&apos;s face. Don&apos;t you agree, honey? I&apos;m sure you do. 

XOXO ---
Z &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>zeron</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 23:22:01 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.&quot;

Responsive reasoning as erudite as one could expect (given the company). &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>TroyJMorris</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:37:08 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Zeron, I have been debating how to respond to your stale repetition.

I have decided to do it thusly:

&quot;WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.&quot;

Enjoy!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>admiralzing</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:34:12 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Troy - I just want to take credit for pointing out that article to you that affirms your beliefs. Therefore, I am mayor of politics.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>zeron</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:13:53 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Troy - I didn&apos;t have time to read your speech but if you want to do a quick 2-3 sentence bullet-point I can give it the once over if I have the time later.
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<title>TroyJMorris</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 14:32:35 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Zeron, your breakdown of the &quot;differences&quot; between the candidates is juvenile.

Did you study politics past the 11th Grade required U.S. History?

There are provisions and previous votes and amendments to said bills that need to be taken into account.

Your whining seems to stem from her cut on the Weekly&apos;s blog readership.  Interesting.  Hit a soft spot?

Onto the Weekly: I don&apos;t read paper&apos;s blogs often, if at all.  It&apos;s usually paper people applying what they know to a completely different medium and it&apos;s level of quality shows this.

However, as a paper, I&apos;m really getting tired of people making love to The Stranger in the middle of the bar while the Weekly goes home alone.

The Weekly is a better written and better edited paper.  Dan Savage is a shitty fucking editor who is more concerned with hype, shock and his own ego than fact checking and even grammar checking.  Have you seen the recent letters and corrects?  YEEESH!

And talk about dribble for cover stories.  Did you happen to catch the Weekly&apos;s article about the Gregiore/Rossi race? Maybe I just feel vindicated for someone writing into print what I&apos;ve been saying all summer.

Also, just to be clear, The Stranger is trash not fit for my recycling bin.  OOOOOOOO Seattle style insult.  Whutwhut!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>RonfromBeaconHill</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 13:45:13 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Obama has stated quite clearly that he&apos;ll withdrawal troops from Iraq over 18  months. McCain has no such plan. No plan whatsoever for withdrawal. In fact he&apos;s made the comment that the war might be a 50-year war. 

Any attempt to state they have the same position on Iraq is utter nonsense. 

Did you listen to the debate last night. Palin called Obama&apos;s plan &quot;a white flag of surrender&quot;.

And as for the economy. Please. So they both voted for the bailout package. So what. One&apos;s a free market guy, and the other is for more regulation. I&apos;ll let you guess who&apos;s who. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>zeron</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 11:35:10 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Audrey, let me guess - you went to a state college? (Not that your little missive wasn&apos;t terribly cerebral and well composed ...)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>zeron</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 11:31:11 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Srsly - I didn&apos;t have time to read your speech but if you want to do a quick 2-3 sentence bullet-point I can give it the once over if I have the time later. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>zeron</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 11:17:28 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Well it certainly shows, I mean my God - how embarrassed you must be for yourselves that your lead page was an eviscerating, anger-filled tirade to what was obviously a self-deprecating humor column. Next you&apos;ll be furiously pounding out criticisms of the parenting techniques exhibited in The Family Circus, shaking your firsts toward the empty air ...

Even your responses to my comment gives off the impression you still don&apos;t quite &quot;get it.&quot; 

Anyway, glad to know my comment caused the Seattlest staff to go into such a Code Red flurry of activity and excitement that a post generated more than the average 1 response per. Kudos to you all! 

 &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Audrey</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 11:03:07 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh Zeron, if you and/or Kornelis think that McCain and Obama are so much alike, feel free to proudly declare that you&apos;re voting third party in this election (go ahead, throw your vote away). Just please end the farce of being &quot;undecided.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>MvB</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:18:18 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;@zeron: on a side note, I&apos;m glad you think we&apos;re professionally staffed, but we&apos;re a volunteer blog as well. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>srsly</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 08:55:19 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;joking aside, saying you&apos;re undecided at this point is pretty much admitting you don&apos;t care enough to actually go out and read something.  maybe latching on to this point is silly for an article like this, i dunno.  i don&apos;t really have that high, or much of one for that matter, an oppinion of the weekly anwyay.

in the 10 minutes it took me to research all these points you made here&apos;s what i found.

environment
mccain: http://tr.im/6tp
obama: http://tr.im/6tu

looks to me like mccain doesn&apos;t even care about the environment enough to show up.  i agree with the skepticism of this &quot;clean coal.&quot;  not really sure how that&apos;s supposed to work.

war
http://tr.im/6tz
where&apos;s mccain&apos;s bill that proposed phased withdrawl and be out by this year?  sure it was probably wishful thinking to completely withdraw and not leave the place a mess by mid-08 but at least it was something.  and i&apos;m just gonna say it, the surge didn&apos;t work, and still isn&apos;t.

health care
http://tr.im/6u3 - mccain&apos;s tax credit appears that it will cause a slight increase in taxes for a percentage of people, but not all.

http://tr.im/6uc - on the other hand obama&apos;s plan sounds like it&apos;s going to be rather expensive.

this is sticky.  both plans have their merits and pitfalls and the end goal is roughly the same, it just depends on where you feel like spending money i guess.

iran
no argument there.  their differences are on how to approach the problem, not the end goal.  though The Maverick seems to want to do this without the help of the UN.  that doesn&apos;t seem like a good way to go.  from what i&apos;ve seen, Obama seems to favor the way of Kissinger and Powell and wants to get, and keep, a dialog going; without any &quot;preconditions.&quot;

you can just gloss over things and say, yep they seem pretty similar, or in 15 minutes of reading you can get a more granular view of what the candidates are actually saying.  if you don&apos;t have 15 minutes to go read something and make an informed decision i don&apos;t know what to call that other than irresponsible.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:46:09 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;OK, I actually read the Seattle Weekly entry. A cute little, lighthearted humor column ... not terribly funny, mind you, but an A for effort. 

Seattlest not only took time to respond to a humor column but responded with a grim-faced, undertaker, policy drumbeat of outrage and indignation? 

LOL. OK, this is just a sad little site. The atrocious spelling and grammar here are one thing but this post just makes the whole concept of Seattlest a rather pathetic caricature of the idea of blogging. 
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:37:18 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Since no one reads the Weekly&apos;s blogs
And speaking of no one reading a blog ... I count 14 entries on the front page of this one with a whopping 23 comments, or less than 1 comment per entry ... 
Check out the traffic of this professionally staffed blog versus the volunteer effort over at another site and the website for the City of Wasilla, AK ...
http://siteanalytics.compete.com/seattlest.com+cityofwasilla.com+westseattleblog.com/?metric=uv
Seattlest is beating &apos;em ... but not by much. Watch out for the tumbleweeds blowing through here.  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:29:05 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;With such sharp policy differences between the two candidates (the economy
Both McBama and O&apos;Cain voted for the $700B bailout.

the environment
Both McBama and O&apos;Cain support offshore oil drilling and the mythical &quot;clean&quot; coal. They both have stated their belief in manmade global warming. 
the war
Both McBama and O&apos;Cain support keeping a minimum of 80,000 troops in Iraq through 2010 and increasing deployment levels to Afghanistan.
healthcare [sic]
Both McBama and O&apos;Cain oppose single-payer health care.
Iran
Neither McBama nor O&apos;Cain will rule out &quot;military options&quot; in dealing with Iran. 

it&apos;s often delusional
not as delusional and uninformed as the author of this piece of S &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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