Seattlest: We Got On The Bus 110 Million Times Last Year

TroyJMorris

Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:59:16 -0800

MvB hit the nail on the head. The RFZ isn't going anywhere. Not unless we get prepaid bus boarding system wide. It's just too much hassle downtown to get people to pay while getting on and off the bus in the busiest of sections. It would easily add 2-3 minutes each stop (every 2-3 blocks) for a mile and a half? That's an extra 10-15 minutes to get through downtown. eep!

Michael van Baker

Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:47:50 -0800

NMKS, if the ride-free zone is aimed at helping low-income people, it's news to me. I understood it was created so tourists and downtown workers could zip around the downtown core. It has no cost-benefit to anyone who has to travel into it or outside of it (see the map, here). I don't think much its usefulness, currently. If the question is how to help keep Metro affordable for low-income riders, then let's do something system-wide.

NMKS

Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:32:07 -0800

The aforementioned comments about the disgust of the ride-free zone leave me very disappointed. I would expect this from some NIMBY-ass blog, but not the Seattlest. Have a little perspective. As one who utilizes public transportation (most often the 43), I can relate to the plights and slight discomforts of riding w/folks whose hygiene leaves little to be desired. If the ride-free zone were eliminated, those low-incomers would have no way of getting to much needed medical, mental health, court appointments. What are their other alternatives? Would it be better if they didn't go to appointments at all, thus perpetuating problems/issues? Breaking parole? Not taking psych meds? Shooting up on the street? (okay, I know that happens anyway) Most low-income service providers are intentionally located downtown, so their clients are able to access them. Are we saying that poor people don't have a right to transportation, b/c they are exactly that...poor?

morecowbell

Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:07:33 -0800

"If the bus system wants to attract new riders" it will need to kick lousy bums, punks, and drug dealers off of the bus downtown. This means, lose the ride free zone. Want convenience? Buy a pass or ticket book. The ride free zone stinks, literally. Going to work on the 43 in the morning is OK. Coming home makes me nauseous. The reeking smell of urine and smoke reminds me day after day of how convenient the ride free zone really is.

Michael van Baker

Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:02:49 -0800

If the bus system wants to attract new riders, it needs to be less complex, more predictable and reflect the reality of today's commute patterns.Agreed, LarryB. If you say the ride-free zone is useful, I'll listen. I rarely get to take advantage of it, myself, and only experience the "rolling homeless shelter" side of it. Also, it's a minor thing, but it seems to be responsible for the weird pay getting on or getting off change-up, depending on whether you're heading to or from downtown.

LarryB

Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:41:02 -0800

Why no ride-free zone? It's a great convenience downtown. What would be great would be the ability for people to more easily buy multi-ride fare types so boarding and alighting would be faster. My gripe about the bus system here is that there are too many lines that run too infrequently. I can take 4 different lines downtown, each from a different stop, each with a slightly different route, and each with at least 20 minutes headway between buses. I'd rather have a choice of 2 lines that ran no less than 10 minutes apart. If the bus system wants to attract new riders, it needs to be less complex, more predictable and reflect the reality of today's commute patterns (e.g. more people traveling EAST across the lake than West.)

Michael van Baker

Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:30:32 -0800

See? This is the kind of shit I'm talking about. Thx, langston.

langston

Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:28:00 -0800

www.mybus.org for all your metro-tracking needs. Metro's customer service department doesn't want to deal with it, so they don't advertise the site and it's services. It will text-messege you where your bus is and it's expected arrival at the stop you select.