We Interview: Mike Daisey, About His Monopoly On Funny, Fiery Monologues

mikedaiseybiopic.jpgMonologuist and fascinating human being Mike Daisey arrives in town next week for a Jan 18 - Feb 3 run of his show Monopoly! at CHAC, followed by a shorter try-out of his newest piece, How Theater Failed America. We got Daisey on the horn the other day and took a walk down memory lane with him, a la Dick Cavett, to soften him up before surprising him with hard-hitting questions about how many pictures he posts on his blog. Then we hung up and bought a ticket to the show.

Were you a storyteller as a kid?

I grew up in Maine, and Maine has a lot of storytellers. There’s a strong storytelling tradition, and I think that played a role. But a lot of the storytellers I got to hear when I was young were very bad because...you know, it was arts programs and stuff, you know they bring people to the schools and they tell stories that are like [boomy-yet-crochety voice] “The Time the Man Went Up the Hill to Find His Old Horse.” They were not really what I was inspired by. But I think the form, at a young age, really spoke to me.

Were you interested in the same kinds of topics you are as a performer today?

That’s definitely true. I was fascinated by technology and weird science and strange geniuses – a lot of the different topics that I tend to delve into have their roots in things I was obsessed with as a child. That’s certainly true of the Monopoly! monologue – it has a lot of threads that would be no surprise to someone who knew me when I was ten. In Monopoly!, I talk about the game Risk, too, how we would play with homemade boards of giant sheets of butcher paper, and invent countries. We’d let the war grow and grow and if it ever got trapped in a particular corner, we’d just tack on new pieces of butcher paper and let it grow in different directions. We played Monopoly similarly, we played on four boards at once so that the game would get hideously complicated. You’d have to have asset transfers between different players, there was a Council of Four who were allowed to vote on the value of currency. The games sort of grew in on themselves and became deeply interesting. That becomes sort of a thread in the show Monopoly! about the nature of games, the nature of desire.

Unexpected topics find themselves side-by-side in your talks, but that’s not simply because you like to surprise people with an odd assortment, is it?

I think the novelty is mostly a side-effect, although there is a certain pleasure in ingredients coming together in a recipe when you don’t know if they’ll actually combine correctly, watching them unfold and complement each other. But it comes out of doing a genuine examination of whatever the monologue’s central thrust is. Monopoly! is principally concerned with monopolies, large and small, and the effects of corporate rule over people in this age. When I want to examine those things, the story of Edison and Tesla fighting over the standards for electricity seems massively emblematic of a lot of other concerns. When I think about stories in this era that are smaller, and more human, I think of the WalMart in my hometown in Maine, and the different threads come together organically. So while there’s a pleasure in the unexpected combination, the ultimate goal is synthesis.

More on the new show, Daisey's R&D process, why he's so angry, and his illustrated blog after the jump.

You’re also doing a show called How Theater Failed America at CHAC this February.

It’s somewhere between a manifesto and a simple assessment of the state of things today. It’s about the rise and fall of the regional theater system in America, and the failure of that system and the artists in that system to fulfill the promise they made a generation earlier – that theater could be a transformative force in America. Content is not the issue so much as the choices made by artists and arts administrators about how they’re going to do their art form. I point a finger squarely at that decision made by arts administrators to get rid of repertory companies of actors, who actually lived at and were supported by large regional theaters. That’s one of the significant reasons why theaters failed to make a difference in our culture. Theater all over the country has become incredibly New York-centric, based of this one city. From this one city, everyone’s being flown out to do regional productions and then flown back. That’s a sickness. It doesn’t speak to the strength of the country, and it leads to an anemic theater that’s out of touch with the concerns of the actual people in each region.

You’re very funny onstage, but getting angry is a key element, too. What’s the role of anger in your work?

A monologue is an interesting form because your job is to remove as many boundaries as possible between yourself and the audience. It’s an attempt to create as unmediated a space as you possibly can, and try to be truly present when you’re talking. One of the consequences of that is people become more themselves when they perform – those elements that are central, integral to them are heightened. They’re what resonate, and I’m very angry. So that becomes a palpable thread through most of my pieces. I think that a lot of my pieces are informed by my rage at different things, the state of things, things that should change or have to change or which I know will never change, the efforts and sacrifices people make to effect change. So the anger fuels and drives a lot of the work. It’s the impetus for a lot of the monologues. If I didn’t have it, I don’t know that I would practice the form. Certainly I wouldn’t in the way that I do now, because it motivates me, to find things that I feel passionately about. It’s the fire underneath things.

There’s an emotional commitment to getting that upset in public.

Yeah. It’s rarely seen. You rarely see people upset or angry in a way that’s constructive. If the structure of the monologue is well-built, and the anger can be used to further the ends you’re interested in, it can be very compelling. Not just dramaturgically, but as a model, where we don’t get to see people model that behavior very often in a way that’s productive. Generally when you see people lose their shit, it’s not their finest hour. It’s empowering to see people experience strong, genuine emotions onstage. The form lends itself to that, to generating intense emotions.

What’s your research and development process?

It really depends on the monologue. For both Monopoly! and How Theater Failed America, I did an enormous amount of reading. I spend a lot of time in conversations with people, especially people who will be charged in some way. I try to seek out people to talk to who will have conversations that matter, though the conversations pretty much never find their way into the work itself – in a direct way – but the process of having those conversations helps gestate the interesting elements that are in the shows. Sometimes there’s video to watch. I’m absorbing things from a lot of different directions. Then I make an outline right before the first performance. After that, my wife and director, Jean-Michele Gregory, and I spend a lot of time poring over it, methodically honing it. We usually have about three 4-hour notes sessions after each performance, pruning things that don’t fit, helping it assume a form. I’m doing How Theater Failed America for the very first time this Sunday, so I haven’t built it yet. The next time it’s spoken will be at CHAC, where we’re going to do a lot of the refining work on it. Then it’ll run off-Broadway at the Public Theater in April and May.

We feel your blog has a lot of photos for someone who makes his living talking. What’s up with that?

It’s sort of an experiment that’s been going on for some time. Originally when I started the site it was more traditional blog. It’s evolved over time, it’s been in its current form for a year or two. I don’t dictate how the site works, it’s a thing that’s open-ended, and so what I use it for right now is a repository for articles and images I find when I’m surfing around the web. Then that serves as a public record, and also a private record, because I can find the images I need for my work at my site. It seemed interesting to have it be an open notebook. It’s intended for me, but it’s also visible to other people. I know why the images are there, so I don’t need to explain them. And they tend to be compelling, so I wouldn’t have much to add. I also like the way the images sit next to each other; I tend to put them together in combinations that later as I scroll through them. The last reason for the images is that doing commentary is my job, so one of the purposes of the blog was to be a hobby, an adjunct to the rest of this work. [laughs] I have lots of outlets for the things I want to talk about.

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