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An Open Letter to Seattle's Douchebags: Knock it the Hell Off!

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Oh Seattle, you make us feel so old.

It was maybe a year ago and some, while we were wallowing in the mud at Sasquatch, clutching our $8 cans of Budweiser, when we finally said to ourselves, "You know what? Outdoor festivals suck."

And then we recoiled in horror. Hating festivals is the very definition of getting old, isn't it? Really. There's an accepted narrative explanation of this phenomenon at pseudo-hipster bastions like The Stranger: anyone who gripes about stuff that's supposed to be fun, like rock festivals or clubbing or bar-hopping, is by definition a curmudgeon who really just hate the kids having fun. But, having had some time now to reflect on that first, god-awful thought, as well as having attended a number of festivals since, we've overcome our initial shame at our hatred of these events and realized, we're not old, we're just not douchebags. And to be fair, Seattle, the vast majority of you are not douchebags, either; but there's an extremely loud and irritating minority who are, and we're sick of them making everything miserable. Coupled with them are their apologists, the organizers, promoters and corporate sponsors (Stranger included) who aid and abet the bad behavior of our douchebag minority in the hopes of raking in a few more bucks.

Witness the debacle that was this last weekend's Capitol Hill Block Party. Arriving later in the day for a set by one of Seattle's best outfits, the Blue Scholars, we got to enjoy the handiwork of the planning genius who set up the gates. Three aisles leading to three entrances, one for ticket-holders, one to buy tickets, and one for will call. As it turned out, the line marked "will call" was actually for guests and exhibitors, and was completely empty. The line for buying tickets was, mostly, also empty. However, the line for the actual will call, which was inexplicably located in the line marked "ticket holders," was the entire length of its allotted aisle and then doubled back all the way to the box office, so that the end of the line waiting to receive the tickets they bought in advance was getting in the way of the people buying tickets day-of. For forty minutes, we stood in line with a couple hundred other people waiting to receive hand-stamps from the one person manning that gate. Brilliant.

Then, once inside, we discovered that it was essentially pointless to have even bothered with the street-fair aspect of the Block Party, as the place was too packed full to allow movement. And for what? Was the mixture of pot-smoking punks, underage emo kids desperate for an all-ages show in this anti-music town, and various sun-soaked drunks really that into the music? Of course not. As Geologic desperately exhorted the crowd to sing along with the Blue Scholars' feel-good hip-hop choruses, Sabzi was forced to cut the beat entirely just so you could sort of hear the crowd chanting something back.

Needless to say, we decided after the Blue Scholars finished that we'd had enough and skipped out on the Smashing Pumpkins-lite (a.k.a., the Silversun Pickups).

But to be fair to the Block Party, it was every bit as shitty as every other festival we've been to. Back at the beginning of the month, we headed down to the Seattle International Beer Festival at Seattle Center. It was a nice hot day, the perfect time to sit back and enjoy some cool, hard-to-come-by beers. But that of course would have been asking too much of a beer festival. Just answer us this, Seattle festival aficionados: Who the hell pays $20 for 10 tickets and a six-ounce tasting glass with the intent to go and get drunk? And what sad-sack lush actually manages to get drunk at what's essentially a tasting? (We're looking in your direction, mid-life-crisis biker dude who kept falling over and vomiting all over yourself.)

And then there was last year's Endfest down at White River. Now, it would be going too far to try to complain about White River Amphitheater, which everyone already knows sucks. No, our real complaint are the jerks who show up. We're working on a story trying to get some pictures of Eagles of Death Metal (consigned to playing in the concourse), yet a wall of frat-boy surfer bums keeps elbowing us back when we ask, politely, "Could I slip through just to take a picture?" So sure, White River blows, but is this year going to be any better down at Qwest Field's parking lot? Somehow, we doubt it.

We could go on--how last year at the Fremont Oktoberfest we were ushered in (at full ticket price) without being told they were 30 minutes from closing. Or how you have to fight through a line at Bumbershoot to get a wrist-band to see the bands you want to see even though you already paid through the ass for a three-day pass months before. And getting in your way, constantly, are gaggles of tanned, shirtless college-aged guys with shaggy hair and sunglasses, who use words like "bro'" and "dude" way too much. Or there's the uptight guy in khakis who shows up late and just shoves you to get by, because wherever he's going is more important than the fact you're standing there. These twin plagues infest entire neighborhoods (Belltown, Fremont, Capitol Hill) on Friday and Saturday nights, overrunning otherwise decent bars and clubs, arriving drunk, behaving louchely towards women, drinking well drinks and cheap domestic beer. Outside they yell, fight, litter and break things in the street at odd hours for no reason.

And this behavior is not without consequences for the rest of us. Not only are we denied reasonable enjoyment of otherwise patently un-hip events like Oktoberfest, but Mayor Nickels is turning around and using this bad behavior to try to Disney-fy the city by regulating the hell out of nightlife. Years after the teen-dance ordinance show-down, we still don't have a lot of all-ages shows, a disappointing failure for which the Vera Project alone cannot be the answer. The roving crowds of weekend drunks will no doubt find new locales in the event their lifeblood of dollar PBRs is cut off, but what's going to happen to places like Capitol Hill or Fremont, where the original character of quirky, creative communities has first been disrupted by a huge party scene and then stomped out in favor of businesses more in tune with the desires of condo-owning yuppies?

It's bad enough that gentrification is forcing out all but the highest wage earnings from what are supposed to be the city's most vibrant neighborhoods, but to be abused by what amount to rude, drunken tourists in our own communities while having any open-to-the-public event turned into a frat-party, its mission co-opted to the twin pursuits of getting drunk and getting laid, is getting seriously old. We're sorry to say it, but we've got no idea how to solve this problem. Really, we gave Pioneer Square to the douchebags years ago, and figured that was enough. Well, turns out, we were wrong. All we know is, we can fight it out through dive bars with bikers shooting pool, handle the roughest, rudest crowd at Neumo's or the Croc, yet can't handle a Friday night at the Triangle. That doesn't make us old curmudgeons, that makes them some really big assholes.

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  • jonnyoctagon
  • guest

    I agree with you. I worked for festivals in Seattle for about 6 years and know first hand that there is really no excuse for not getting your prepaid, ticket holding, festival supporting guests through the gate in a quick and painless manner. Your experience at the BP gate is shameful.



    I do have one descending comment. The wristbands at BS are completely necessary and the hell you would go through without them wouldn't make anyone happy.



    There is a limited capacity in Memorial Stadium. Before the wrist bands, if you wanted to make it inside you had to get in line as soon as the gates open and wait all day, missing all the other awesome things going. With the wristbands you can pick one up in the morning and enjoy the day knowing you will get to see the evening show.



    This solution is actually an innovative one. I think they should actually charge a few bucks for the band so people who only pick one up because the "might" want to go don't take them away from people who really really love the bands that are playing that night.



    And please people, don't complain about the ticket price. How much is one show at any other large venue? We are lucky to have a nonprofit festival in our city. Where else can you spend $30 for 12 hours of entertainment?

  • guest

    I didn't really expect The Stranger to write anything along these lines since they sponsored the event and all, so thank you for writing this.



    Friday's main stage didn't really get bad until Blue Scholars started. My friends and I were watching from the corner across the street from Neumos where we'd had almost no problems watching The Blood Brothers. Once Blue Scholars started, people were constantly walking around and in front of us to the point where we could only catch glimpses of the performance. We decided to make our way through the crowd to the beer garden and watch from there, which was a baaaaad idea, because it was full of douchebags who weren't there for the music at all, but just wanted to get drunk and be loud idiots. As such, we were able to see the performance, but couldn't hear hardly anything. I also had to deal with a bleach-blond rhythmless skank bumping into me as she drunkenly grinded on her boyfriend. Things were generally much better at the Vera stage (can't say anything for Neumos because we couldn't get in).



    Saturday was much better, possibly because I was much drunker and all of the above problems with Friday didn't bother me as much. I also spent most of the day at Neumos and the Vera stage, with the exception of Against Me (side note: they played way too much new stuff, so their set was totally weak). Anyway, the one performance that made the whole debacle worthwhile was seeing Kay Kay and His Weathered Underground close out the Vera stage Saturday night. Just about everyone watching them was there for the music and to have a good time, and was really what the whole weekend should have been.



    My vote for next year: get rid of the beer garden and age restrictions on Neumos. That'll weed out most of the drunken idiots that don't care about the music and there's plenty of bars along that block anyway, so if people still want to get drunk, they can.

  • kasa

    Outdoor festivals? One word: PICKATHON.



    If nothing else, you're pretty much guaranteed a deficit of fratty-hipsters. Of course you have to pay through the nose for it, and it's, you know.... Pickathon.



    Glad I'm a dork.





    Also, anyone know what was up with the kids in capes after the Block Party? What was that shit?

  • guest

    Jeremy M. Barker: the Lewis Black of concert critics.

  • guest

    Nice rant. I went to the Capitol Hill Block Party on Saturday evening for the sole purpose of watching two bands I love: Against Me! and Spoon. Sad to say I felt like I was in the minority. Most people seemed to be there to either party till they fell over or were there because it was cool and just wanted to be seen. Yes, I feel like The Stranger provoked this behavior from their text on their website blog and event insert in their rag.



    I am used to going to Bumbershoot and getting annoyed by people who are there just to because it was something to do. Or, people that show up for one band and then spend the remaining time wondering around in a daze getting in my way. I've learned to deal with this. Those people usually aren't drunk and rude though.



    The worst aspect of the Capitol Hill Block party had to be the process in which you had to get into Neumos once the beer garden was closed. Which low IQ-scoring drop out was in charge of this crow management technique? And why on earth did they make Neumos an over 21 club anyway? It just isn't fair to the under 21 people who paid their $20 same as me.



    It is going to take one awesome band for me to return to the Capitol Hill Block Party because quite frankly that event is not for music fans.

  • Saxtor

    You're just going to the wrong festivals. For example, the lineup for the first Sasquatch (hippy bands!) was the only one that has really interested me, and I had a blast. From all reports of later years, it has just become a swarming hipster/emo-fest, but the first year was amazing.

    Yonder Mountain String Band's Northwest String Summit fest outside Portland is quite possibly the best year-to-year festival I've been to with quality beer (Rogue!), beautiful scenery (Horning's Hideout) and an all-around good vibe.

    Two weekends from now, August 10th-12th, local rockers Flow Motion are holding their Summer Meltdown festival which the festival I'm most anticipating this year. The management, being grassroots, runs it better than any Gorge/Bumbershoot/etc. festival, with clean portapotties, non-overbearing security, plenty of good beer (Deschutes!) and a comfortable party atmosphere.



    What I'm saying is, these low-attention-span type festivals with all the sponsorships, 100 bands and services and security not worth discussing draw such a weird element that just isn't for me.



    I go to 5-7 outdoor festivals every Summer, and the ones that are the worst are the Bumbershoot/Block Party/Endfest type. Pack 'em in, get 'em drunk, push 'em around, get 'em out.

  • opus

    Welcome to our generation. In the past half-decade all the children of '80s yuppies hit the drinking age, and yes, they are obnoxious. And they have money to burn...hence the sponsors.



    What I don't get is when preppy-frat-tastic formed a union with hipsterdom? When did Urban Outfitters become Abercrombie & Fitch?



    And do we have to keep calling these kids with their neon sunglasses and ugly dresses hipsters even when their style has been played out in London and NYC for three years?







  • guest

    Amen! As a 23 year old, I constantly feel way too old for my age for being so anti-outdoor-festival but it really is because of certain people that they've become hellholes. I'm glad i'm not alone in feeling this way.

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