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The Mars Hill Protest That Wasn't

marshillgray.jpgThe protest of the Mars Hill mega-church that we've been talking about for the past few weeks didn't go down as planned this weekend. It was called off at the last minute after Mars Hill pastor Mark Driscoll agreed to sit down with some of the organizers and discuss his egregious remarks towards women. Here is a recounting of that meeting and here is Driscoll's response to the protest. Below is an exchange we had with protest organizer Paul Chapman.

Was one of People Against Fundamentalism's stated goals to remove Mark
Driscoll from his pastorship at Mars Hill?

Yes, early on, out of our inexperience in activism, we had some pie-in-the-sky goals and rhetoric. We are fast learners, though, and we scaled those goals and rhetoric back to a much more reasonable level.

Would you say that you were successful, despite canceling the protest?

I think we've been enormously successful. Reverend Driscoll is no longer writing for The Seattle Times. I'm not claiming responsibility for that; it seems to have been a fortunate coincidence, or perhaps divine providence. We were able to sit down with Reverend Driscoll, who is a very busy man, and have a long and frank conversation. We've seen him in that meeting and on his blog express repentance for his inflammatory rhetoric and pledge to cease it. These are all hugely positive steps for Mark and for women. Less importantly, we've gotten our feet wet in activism. We've made a number of great contacts and friends throughout the city, both within Christianity and without.

Did we get a massive protest? No. But our goal was never a protest for protest sake. We were looking for change, and I think we got some change and we look forward to more change in the future.

Did you or anyone else think Mark would sit down with you and talk through
this issue?

No. We hoped, but--at least for me--the hope was faint. Reverend Driscoll is a busy man with a lot of responsibility. Over the years his friends and colleagues have tried to talk with him about this inflammatory language. It would be pretty egotistical for me, a pretty-much-nobody, to presuppose that I have more sway with Mark than his friends. So we were surprised and grateful that Reverend Driscoll agreed to meet.

I have to say that I am thankful to Rose Madrid-Swetman (the unnamed pastor who help Rev. Driscoll understand his scope of influence), Dwight Friesen, and Ed Cook for making the overtures to Rev. Driscoll and laying the groundwork for the meeting.

Are you sold on Mark Driscoll changing his ways?

I am hopeful. In the Christian church repentance has weight. Not only does it mean "I'm sorry" but it also means "I'm changing my actions." Might there be some backsliding? I hope not! So, we do look forward to watching Mark work out his repentance in the coming months and years.

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  • True

    It's funny. The amount of time and energy you put into trying to make someone "reform" from being what your not, and saying the things you wouldn't. For instance, if your against sexism, why is Mark the first person you would attack? When as I read these blogs posted about him, my God, and His church I look to the bottom right hand corner and there are advertisments for porn sites, playboy, etc. etc. No harm intended, but look around. As un-deserving and sinful as this world is, thank God that this is as bad as it will get for Mark, Mars Hill church members, and fellow Christians.

  • I'm glad to see that things were more or less worked out peacefully, without a protest.

    BTW, Driscoll doesn't refer to himself as "Reverend" (nor does anyone else), so I'm not sure why Paul keeps calling him that, unless it was a jab. Driscoll's book is called "Confessions of a Reformission Rev.", but I'm pretty sure that's just a publisher's attempt to make a pithy title.

  • I am sad that Paul would take the route of protesting a fellow Christian because he did or said things that did not match Paul's preference, regardless of how right or wrong Mark was over a non-core Scriptural issue. Matthew 18 describes the bible approach for that. Too bad Paul decided to skip that requirement for conflict among people in the Church.

    If I organized a public protest against every church here in Miami that did things that I disagreed with, I'd have no friends and no larger community of faith to enjoy.

  • Seth

    I read the post and it seems like the only change is that he's not going to use "pejorative language" like "chickified." This is what we're protesting here? Pejorative language? Are these "People Against Fundamentalism" or are they "People for Totalitarianism"? Please wake me up when the trains start running on time.

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