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Three Questions About the Mariners

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1) Why did Brandon Morrow, the M's first pick (#5 overall) in yesterday's draft, mysteriously gain five MPH on his fastball last summer, just before the season when he could be drafted?

Over at USS Mariner, they are ranting about some guy named Andrew Miller that the Mariners apparently should've drafted, flinging charges of collusion and conspiracy.

But, since that ship has sailed, we're concerned about this nugget of information, buried deep in the Seattle Times' story about Morrow:

"I don't know what happened, but one day last year, he all of a sudden went from 91 to 96," [Mariner scout Stacey] Pettis said. "It was almost like he woke up one day and there it was."

The transformation is a mystery to Morrow, who said, "I can't attribute it to anything. I have no idea, to be honest. I just started throwing harder."

A mystery, eh? We pose it to you, dear reader...what could cause a pitcher to suddenly gain five MPH of velocity on his fastball? Golly gosh that's so baffling!

grover.jpg2) How the hell did we lose the 1995 ALCS to a Mike Hargrove-managed team?

Hargrove continues to amaze with his incapacity. As Casey Stengel would say, "his limitations are limitless."

Yesterday, we had the makings of a big first inning going. The first two runners on, and our best hitter, Jose Lopez, at the plate. Hargrove has him bunt.

The papers today are full of plaudits about how the M's played small-ball to win a close game. Know what? If they'd let Lopez hit in the first, it might not have been a close game. Hall of Fame pitcher and Mets broadcaster Tom Seaver says, "never give the pitcher the first out." Psychologically, he contends, it's an important event for the pitcher. But the M's just gave that first out away, blowing an early scoring chance.

morse.jpg3) Why would anyone hate Mike Morse?

Mike Morse is our best hitter. He's not gifted with a great swing, or with good power, but he works deep into counts (yesterday, drawing the first walk off of Liriano) and swings at good pitches. He gets on base at a pretty good clip and is a fair outfielder. And he's young and versatile and smart. What's not to like?

Man, everything Morse does annoys me. I really hate that guy. Can we seriously not find someone better?

Lots, we guess, if you read the USS Mariner comments section, which is full of snarky comments like this. We think it has something to do with the fact that Morse annoys the stathead/rabidly-Jamesean component of the fan base. Morse hits like crap in AAA, but well in the majors. That shouldn't happen. If flies in the face of logic! DOES NOT COMPUTE! But it DOES happen. The guy's hitting .462! He's on a pace to hit ... .462! Why fight it, people?

Note: If you don't know what rabidly-Jamesean means, you are lucky. Just keep on walkin'. Trust us.

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  • Saying his OPS is better than Beltre is like saying that Jim Thome has a better OPS than Yuniesky Bentancourt. Sure Thome hit's better, but how many runs would he cost you if you stuck him at short stop?



    I will admit that Beltre's signing hasn't worked out. I'll still defend it as a good gamble in light of the information available at the time. However, simply looking at raw offensive statistics and trying to compare Morse and Beltre isn't going to work. Morse's bad defense completly negates any offensive advantage. The problem is that his bat isn't good enough to play at any position where his defense won't kill you.

  • Seth

    Sorry Jason, should've been more clear.



    I didn't mean that he's the best hitter statistically. Obviously, Ichiro deserves that honor.



    I was attempting to get across that I think he does the best at utilizing his (limited) talent at the plate of anyone on the team. His swing isn't great, he doesn't have a ton of power, but I feel like he has great ABs and usually hits the ball hard somewhere.



    Completely subjective analysis, I know.



    And--maybe he was league average--but his 2005 OPS was better than Beltre's. So he's sure not Mariners average.

  • jason

    if you're going to make inane comments like "mike morse is our best hitter" then expect snarky comments in return (hint: ichiro). i'll just point out that his hitting tailed off dramatically over the last three months of last season to the point that he ended up with league-average numbers. i do think that he would excel in a willie bloomquist-like role (with better power), but we already have one of those... being used ineptly by mike hargrove. i would rather we take away hargrove's toys than give him another one.

  • We hate Morse because:



    He has never really hit well in the minors. And the list of players who have not hit in the minors and some how succeded in the majors is effectively ZERO.



    He is awful defensively. He was the worst defensive short stop in the majors last year, (i.e, he cost the mariners more runs than any other shortstop) and he did it in very few games.



    His bat would be acceptable for a SS or 2B, however he has proven he can't play there. For a corner infielder or corner outfielder his bat simply can't carry him. He's an ok bench guy (although you could probably find better) but has no business starting unless you are giving someone a day off, or you have a player that simply CAN'T hit left handed pitching.



    The most daming thing about Morse is that the only time he's shown any power in his career coincides with the time he was on steroids. Unlike your implication that Morrow is on the juice with no evidence, Mike Morse has actually tested positive for and been suspended multiple times.



    Morrow's increase in speed can be attributed to, getting healthy and growing into his body. Pitchers tend to gain velocity as they approach 25, peaking around 27, and then slowly tailing off.

  • Ryan

    1. He grew up; got stronger. It happens.



    2. Hargrove is a profoundly bad in-game strategist. Just...bad.



    3. Morse is hot right now, that's all. He'll revert back. Look for him to be traded as part of a larger package by the deadline. He's a guy who doesn't really have a position and we already have Ibanez, Everett, and Petagine to fill that role (yes, Ibanez).

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